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THE HOLY QURAN AND THE STATUS OF WOMAN
Here are some of the verses in form of translation from the quran regarding this with my comments here and there.
YUSUFALI: Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.
1) Such verses clearly show that muslim men are in-charge over their muslim women. See also 4/25 etc.
2) Muslim masters are in-charge over their muslim male and female slaves.
3) So Islam is an unfair controlling system wherein nonmuslims are bound to be treated worse.
In order to see whether what the quran says makes sense or not, one must look at things as parts of Islamic state constitution in order to realise Islamic goals for muslim society and its individual members ie men, women and children. We must look at each and everything in terms of politics, society, culture and economics as structures, systems and practices, to see how they work together if they do and to what ends and why etc etc. The idea is to see whether individual concepts and practices are capable of working together or not and whether they are capable of producing any allegedly desired results. For example, if islam can solve our worldly problems as muslims claims then how can it do so if it dictates ideas, systems and practices that oppose each other or are in conflict with the reality of this world? If economic progress and prosperity is the goal then by cutting down on female participation in various fields through various unnecessary restrictions, islam is putting a hurdle in the way of progress and prosperity. It is important to start from the goals islam sets for muslims to achieve in this world, because it is the goals that decide for a people their political, social, cultural and economic set up.
Another problem one must realise is the context of suras and verse of the quran ie the environment and circumstances in which they were revealed. This is seriously problematic because the rule of abrogation tell us that earlier rulings on matters are no longer applicable. This happened within the 23 years of revelation ie Allah had to wait for the right environment and circumstances to evolve so that he could reveal the related verses of the quran. This raises serious question that if this was important for those 23 years then why not for the later years as well because things did not stop evolving by then?
YUSUFALI: Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.
Women are not mere sex slaves for men as this verse portrays them, they are their loving mothers, loving daughters and loving sisters as well as equal loving partners in life. This verse also ignores the sexual need of women as sexual human beings like men. This is more obvious when a man can have so many women and can only go for the ones he desires at any given time and only for his own satisfaction. In fact the language used in this verse does not seem civilised to me and I rather not say more.
YUSUFALI: A divorce is only permissible twice: after that, the parties should either hold Together on equitable terms, or separate with kindness. It is not lawful for you, (Men), to take back any of your gifts (from your wives), except when both parties fear that they would be unable to keep the limits ordained by Allah. If ye (judges) do indeed fear that they would be unable to keep the limits ordained by Allah, there is no blame on either of them if she give something for her freedom. These are the limits ordained by Allah; so do not transgress them if any do transgress the limits ordained by Allah, such persons wrong (Themselves as well as others).
YUSUFALI: So if a husband divorces his wife (irrevocably), He cannot, after that, re-marry her until after she has married another husband and He has divorced her. In that case there is no blame on either of them if they re-unite, provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by Allah. Such are the limits ordained by Allah, which He makes plain to those who understand.
It is a man who marries a women at will and it is a man who divorces her at will, so why should the women go and sleep with some one else before getting back with her ex-husband? I thought it was up to individuals to consent to marriage as and when they wished, perhaps I thought wrong. What difference does it make to god how many times a couple breaks and makes between themselves? It makes hell of a difference if the couple have children together and if they love each other but still feel every now and again that they had enough of each other. Why should god step in to make the break as if a permanent one?
Muslims tell me there is no such thing as forced marriage in islam, what is this then? Now suppose the women obeys Allah and marries another man in order to get back with her ex-husband but this later husband refuses to divorce her, what happens then? The point is clear that she in this case cannot get back with her ex-husband, so what is the point in telling her to do so? Moreover, when she sleeps with her new husband and becomes pregnant, she will now have children in two places, how would she feel separated from one set of children or the other? Is this what islam cares for the feelings of the innocent mother? Also how about children who will become separated from their mother? Would they not be psychologically affected by all this nonsense, thanks to Allah?
YUSUFALI: There is no blame on you if ye divorce women before consummation or the fixation of their dower; but bestow on them (A suitable gift), the wealthy according to his means, and the poor according to his means;- A gift of a reasonable amount is due from those who wish to do the right thing.
YUSUFALI: And if ye divorce them before consummation, but after the fixation of a dower for them, then the half of the dower (Is due to them), unless they remit it or (the man's half) is remitted by him in whose hands is the marriage tie; and the remission (of the man's half) is the nearest to righteousness. And do not forget Liberality between yourselves. For Allah sees well all that ye do.
Is marriage about loving relationship of two consenting adults with equal rights or a low paid sexual contract ie a forced prostitution? Is this the respect muslim women have in islam? A status of cheaply hired vagina or womb? What else could the conclusion be, for a mother has no right to her children, the fruit of her own womb and look at the price she is paid for that? Are prostitutes not in a better position than that?
YUSUFALI: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
If marriage is about loving relationship between two consenting adults then what is meaning of a man having four wives at the same time? If a man is unable to deal fairly with free women then marry slaves girls, what kind of logic is this? Are slave women not going to become free after marriage to their masters? If they are then the problem of dealing with them in fairness remains the same, does it not? Moreover, are believing slave women not human being with feelings that they do not deserve equal treatment? And why marry a slave when she is already available at will to her master? Moreover, what is the purpose behind all this when muslims are not supposed to be gathering good things of this life for sake of here after?
YUSUFALI: And give the women (on marriage) their dower as a free gift; but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it to you, Take it and enjoy it with right good cheer.
How big this dower is to begin with that she let go even that for her husband? Is it not the idea behind such encouragements to fool the woman into giving up whatever little she has at every twist and turn financially so that she remains lying at her husband’s or master’s feet? This so called mahr or marriage dower from husband to wife is mere stupidity because it is not fixed at minimum or maximum according to necessities and desires of women. For poor woman it does not mean relief from her poverty and for rich it makes no difference. Was this how people used to live in a utopia Islamic state? Is this how Islamic state took care of everyone? If Islamic state is responsible for welfare of individuals ie be they men, women or children then why should a woman need any price for her marriage to anyone? If individual is to look after oneself then, why put restriction on their economic independence? Why not let people let live and take care of their own needs themselves?
Please remember what I am saying ie in my view God (if there is one) has to be all perfect but the quran is not. These like things in the quran force me not to attribute such like scriptures to god as his word, because these are tribal customs as they were in Arabia at the time. God would not tell us to live by primitive tribal customs knowing full well that the dynamic nature of the world. If I knowingly accept such like scriptures as divine then from fairness point of view, I could not be a fair minded person or that I must be insane. On the other hand if one finds the quran to be perfect yet fails to believe it so, that too would be equally unfair and dishonest on the part of the person. So it all depends on what one makes of the quran oneself and that depends on how learned one is and how open minded one has been brought up to judge things for what they really are, because muslims are brainwashed with Islamic dogmatic indoctrination right from their childhood and are told not to question what they are taught in the name of god.
YUSUFALI: Allah (thus) directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the (only) heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased Left brothers (or sisters) the mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases ('s) after the payment of legacies and debts. Ye know not whether your parents or your children are nearest to you in benefit. These are settled portions ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-knowing, Al-wise.
Here I have a few problems with the verse.
A) The share 2/3 is impossible to calculate or to distribute. The reason is that mathematically, one cannot be fully divided by three eg try 1/3= 0.333333……………. ie the answer seems to be keep going for ever and ever. So such an order of the quran cannot be carried out perfectly no matter what. Since this order cannot be carried out practically therefore the order is wrong or it is a clear cut mistake. Since god is supposed to be perfect and cannot make mistakes, so this commandment cannot be from all perfect divine being. Since situations can differ eg a man could have seven or nine sons instead of three so again one cannot be fully divided by seven or nine ie 1/7= 0.1428571……. Or 1/9= 0.111111111 etc etc. So distribution of inheritance has no divine solution in some situations as mentioned in this verse. Also if the universe was created by god then such mistakes would not have been there, for god being perfect would not be able to make such mistakes, for he would have created this universe as a purpose built unit, perfect for his purpose. Thus statements in the alleged divine scriptures at times do not match the real world the way the world is, proving the fact that the scriptures are manmade and that the universe is not a purpose built unit created by some god.
B) The other problem I have here is unfair distribution of inheritance ie we are told that the share of two daughters in the estate of their father are same as of one son. In other words two daughters inherit half of the estate of their father and the other half goes to their only brother. It is explained by muslim scholars that this is the case because the responsibility of looking after women in the family falls on men. So if that is the case then women do not really need any inheritance at all, do they? They become like children in the family whose needs are met by their parents. So why give them any share at all and create a problem where there is none? Muslims proudly say, islam gave women the property rights but that is not true. Muhammad’s first wife was a business-woman and she was not a muslim when she married Muhammad. The quran tells story of queen of sheba and she too was not a muslim but owned the kingdom. Also the point is not whether one has property rights or not in evolutionary terms but whether those rights are divine or not and so fair or not fair? I take them to be unfair and that unfairness is permanent, for quran claims to be the final message from god for ever as far as muslims are concerned.
So either woman deserve share or they do not but if they do need share in the inheritance then they should be given equal share, for that is more sensible thing to do. One may say, how is that more sensible? Well, if everyone had their own share then each person could chip in their own share whenever there was need for common spending in the family. Moreover, women being more vulnerable in male dominated society would face more difficulties so they need more help than their male counterparts. It would have given them better security so that their exploitation could be reduced if not totally stopped. By taking away from the weaker members of the society we are in fact making them more vulnerable. According to this quranic logic weak and poor members of our society do not need anything, do they, because the rich among us will look-after them, would they or do they not? Well, look at what has been going on in the muslim world so far for centuries right from the beginning.
C) Yet other problem is that this distribution method is a recipe for relationship disaster between the rich and the poor. One may ask, how is that possible? First let us suppose that there are two families with two children each. One male and the other female. These two families are equally rich or equally poor. Let say, their children get married. These children will not lose anything because what one girl loses from her parents is made up by what the boy gets from his parents.
Now imagine that one family is not same as the other ie one is now very rich and the other very poor. Now suppose that, just like before these children also get married to each other. Now poor girl will get less from her parents than her brother but her husband will get twice as much as his sister. However the rich girl will only bring to poor boy half of what her brother will keep. Now this will not stop there rather when these people have their own children, they too will be affected by this decision very seriously. So according to the quranic distribution system of inheritance rich are more likely to marry rich and keep everything between themselves and the poor will be quietly pushed out. Such things when studies in detail reveal what I would call the true islam that is not really good for the poor and the weak. However, that is what I think but perhaps I am missing something here which others know better.
D) My next point would have been the fractions that are involved in this verse, for they do not add up to one ie the whole estate, because the quran does not explain them sufficiently for practical purposes but I will leave that aside just now.
YUSUFALI: If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way.
YUSUFALI: If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful.
A) In these verses discrimination against women is again obvious ie they are to be imprisoned in the houses for good whereas men can repent and reform.
B) The other problem here is getting the four reliable witnesses to prove guilt of these people. In other words the evidence required for conviction of such people seems to be almost impossible. I mean who will dare such a thing in front of four male witnesses who are supposed to be good people? Moreover why would they not stop such a crime if they are already there?
C) The concept of rape in general is not addressed in the quran nor the concept of rape in marriage. As for rape by husband or master, there is no such thing in islam, because once a slave girl becomes property of her master, he can do what he likes to her and the idea seems to be the same in case of husband that once a women consents in marriage then she has no right to refuse the husband and if she disobeys then husband can beat her up as well. Since a wife is tilth for her husband so by implication she cannot refuse her husband but husband can, yet if woman commits adultery due to neglect by her husband she is still in trouble. Of course there are many hadith on this in various hadith books but they are far too many to be taken into account in this already a very short essay???
D) Also there is another aspect here about gays and lesbians. I will discuss that when I talk about science in the quran. According to the quran god created people men and women tell us the muslims but the scientific thought in this matter seriously contests this state of affairs, proving the Quranic concept of two perfect genders wrong.
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good.
A) Law of marriage and rape is causing problems for muslims in present world order. For example, the prophet of islam allegedly at the age of around fifty years got married to Aisha his youngest wife when she was around six years old. This would not be right because it is not an acceptable age for a woman to be able to give her consent. Moreover, this would seem odd that a good man like a divine prophet would do such a thing instead of breaking the bad tribal norms of the day. Anyway this issue is contested a lot between muslims and nonmuslims but I would leave it to individuals to decide it for themselves.
B) As for law of rape, it runs into trouble because it creates a catch 22 situation for a woman. For example, if a woman claims that she has been raped by such and such person, it is her responsibility as an accuser to provide the evidence ie produce four reliable good muslim witnesses. Should she fail to do so, she would be branded the liar and would have to go through the penalty for false accusation. However, if she fails to disclose rape at the time due to being unable to provide the necessary evidence but becomes pregnant and gives birth to a child then she would be accused of adultery and the pregnancy would be used as proof of her adultery. So she faces punishment for that, which could be death by stoning for a married woman as is clearly stated in many reports in various hadith books.
This law on the other hand gives very good protection to a landlord against the accusation of a woman of his vessels for example. Suppose a bad landlord, calls a woman to his house and no one is there save his friends. Since women is not allowed to travel alone so she takes her father, husband or brother with her. When they get there, the landlord’s men take care of the man and the landlord does what he intended with the woman. The father or brother of the lady cannot save her and they have no four reliable witnesses, what happens now? If the lady and her father accuse the landlord, it is highly likely that they themselves will end up receiving the Islamic justice and if they remain silent but the lady ends up being pregnant then again the situation puts them in trouble. This surely is more than sufficient to frightened the hell out of any woman not to step out side the house. Not only that but when home alone make sure the door is really strong so that unwelcome visitors do not drop in uninvited, for consequences for a married woman are again very serious.
C) The other problem here is the contradiction between the verses eg 4/19 and 2/230 ie the consent is necessary in this case but a woman must marry another man after divorce to get back with her first husband provided the other man divorces her, if not that creates another problem for her, does it not? Again there are reports about it in hadith books. I am not going over there but you dear reader be my guest.
YUSUFALI: But if ye decide to take one wife in place of another, even if ye had given the latter a whole treasure for dower, Take not the least bit of it back: Would ye take it by slander and manifest wrong?
YUSUFALI: And how could ye take it when ye have gone in unto each other, and they have Taken from you a solemn covenant?
YUSUFALI: And marry not women whom your fathers married,- except what is past: It was shameful and odious,- an abominable custom indeed.
YUSUFALI: Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
Varying dowry/price after man has used woman like a prostitute is only going to benefit man, because he is the one who had to pay and he agreed, so why allow him to break his word now? And all that time woman has been serving him like a slave, does that count for anything? If he could not afford it then he should not have agreed, so he should not be allowed to cheat the woman now that he is kicking her out, why let him get away with it? Moreover, in a utopia Islamic state, why women married men for so little that was not even enough for their daily up keep? Could they not bother about it at all if the Islamic people and the state was as generous (ie welfare based) as we are told about it by muslims? Moreover, if Islamic state was that generous, why men are worried for being broke that they need to cheat their poor ex-wives?
Also after having so many women the verse still talks about chastity of man, what the hell is going on here? Were these muslim men thinking human beings or sex maniac penises walking about on two legs? At this point one has to ask, do men not feel degraded by the quran being portrayed therein like this? Because having all these women and they being all wrapped up men still somewhat feel sexually not fully satisfied and ready to commit adultery, rape and what have you.
Not only that but here is what the quran tells us about the prophet, his wives and his followers 33/37, 50-54. The prophet desires other peoples’ women and because he thinks that way, he is also worried that others will be looking at his wives with similar intentions ie with sexual desires. The quran for exactly the same reason (ie men desiring for more sex) motivates muslims with more sex in heaven as if sex is the only thing in muslim men’s life, for muslim women’s need in this matter is ignored. There is no hadith as regard woman that if she wants to have sex, her husband/master should hurry to satisfy her at once. Mind you there are hadith reports which tell that women have more sexual desire than men and that makes it even more important that their need be met and that they are the ones who need more husbands than men needing more wives.
YUSUFALI: If any of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess: And Allah hath full knowledge about your faith. Ye are one from another: Wed them with the leave of their owners, and give them their dowers, according to what is reasonable: They should be chaste, not lustful, nor taking paramours: when they are taken in wedlock, if they fall into shame, their punishment is half that for free women. This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint. And Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Once a slave girl becomes free, she should be treated like a free woman in all respects including in matters of punishment. The opposite is told about the wives of the prophet ie if they do any wrong their punishment will be double 33/30, perhaps to frightened them more into submission, which is wrong. Laws are needed to be fair and to be applied fairly as well. After telling us the law about free women the quran makes these changes which would be taken as a mistake. It is a mistake because no other such discrimination is made between free women. It is not told because so and so woman has this background therefore she should be punished differently. A thief is a thief and that is it. One cannot say, because this thief has this background or circumstances therefore he should be punished different from the norm. Not that there is anything wrong with taking peoples’ circumstances into account but that then there cannot be a fixed penalty eg 50 lashes for every such adulterer as mentioned here or 100 lashes according to 24/2. Moreover what is norm is not described in the quran to begin with so how do we judge any case in this matter and thereby apply varying punishments according to individual cases or circumstances?
YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
None should be allowed to beat up anyone, least of all a loving husband beating up his loving wife. Anyway beating up wife would only destroy any love she may have in her heart for her husband and may even fill her with hate or is it that Islamic marriages have nothing to do with love? Moreover what effect will it have on children when they see or hear their father beating up their mothers? It is possible they would not like their father. Moreover their mothers may even drive them away from their father in revenge. Perhaps, Islamic marital relationships are not based on love and fairness but lust and master slave relationship or even without emotional attachment prostitution principle, though these women are not paid much, as it seems from such like evidences eg having unlimited sexual partners ie wives and slave girls. The temporary marriage is also part of same equation ie needs to be understood in the same context.
Anyway going back to beating, legal matter or dispute should be sorted out properly by legal means not beatings but then concept of submission or obedience only leads to master slave relationship between people rather than sense based cooperation. It seems, Islam's answer to problems like this is almost always go people and beat up each other eg if children disobey parents, they should be beaten up by their parents. If wives disobey husbands, they should be beaten up by their husbands. If slaves disobey their master, they should be beaten up by their masters. If people disobey their rulers, they should be beaten up by their rulers. If they disobey their god, they should be beaten up bu their god. No wonder then that people like myself think that religion is a system of control that is used by some people who are in position of power against others who are under their sway to control them, need be by force and violence. One only needs to read the hadith I posted already, how slaves are advised by the prophet to obey their masters or how wives are advised by the prophet to obey their husbands and how muslims are told to obey their rulers 2/178, 4/59 etc etc.
Another problem here is that if people are ordered or allowed to be controlled this way then they cannot make any choices as regard religion for example. You follow your ruler’s or your father’s or your husband’s religion, for you are not allowed to think for yourself or you will be beaten up, for what they say is right even if wrong and what you think is wrong even if right. So why should the god of quran punish people for things for which he is not allowing them to make choices for themselves? Such verses in the quran contradict the verses which allow freedom of religion thus leading us to confusion as to what the correct Islamic position is as to such matters. Hence the law of abrogation to explain away such conflicting messages of god. Creating people ignorant, making it impossible for people to educate themselves, telling them to submit to each other and sending them confusing signals, gives people perfect guidance, does it not? This is allegedly the perfect setting up by god.
Some muslims say that the prophet ordered his followers to treat their slaves better. I would ask, was it for the benefit of slaves or their masters? My guess is that it was for the benefit of the masters or the prophet would have told them free the slaves at once, for hereafter is better than the value of your slaves. I am guessing this because the ahadith I have quoted tell muslim slaves to serve their muslim masters well by hard work. They may have been concocted by these people themselves to justify their actions with blessings of the prophet but I cannot prove that.
Were these people not good enough muslims that they could not give up slavery for sake of god? If they were good enough muslims even with keeping muslim slaves then how right are we to blame present muslim kings, fuedals, tribal and religious chiefs and landlords etc etc? Moreover the prophet also told people to treat their animals better, was that for the benefit of the animals or their owners? A slave or an animal or a machine is not going to be able to work as good as it can if it was not looked after or serviced properly. In a country all people, animals or machines need to be looked after properly if we want them to work properly, be useful and productive hence government must ensure it is doing all it can to help its people to be productive.
Muslim humanity is placed under question by acts such as reported in hadith books. If one reads one of bukhaari hadithes I have quoted already about captive women and what muslims did to them after capture, one will see that they killed their husbands, sons, fathers or brothers etc etc in battle and then forced themselves upon these helpless women. Imagine the torture such an act would have caused these human beings, especially a woman in this situation. This kind of sex makes no sense other than forced sex ie rape. The question is, does it come under satisfying one’s sexual desire properly or lust? The quran tells muslim to marry not for lust but for chastity and yet allows such acts, does that make any sense? It is really beyond any civilised people, especially those who would claim to be the guardians of the divine truth for the betterment of humanity. According to ahadith, such acts were carried out by the permission of the prophet or should I say with the blessings of Allah. This again is a contentious issue between muslims and nonmuslims.
My point is only to show what problem I have with islam as a heavenly appointed religion and the quran as a word of god. I simply cannot accept that god being all good and kind, as the quran says, can tell people to harm each other this way in his name. The divine standard for right and wrong cannot be such confusing and damaging to humanity as it appears from these sources of islam and the behaviour of the prophet and muslims as reported in these sources. It has to be better than that. Divine standard ought to be good, better than all existing standards of humanity, the very same for all times and places, for it ought to be purpose built. Since muslims claim that islam is that standard, I am pointing out that it is not. This is the reason muslim cannot be allowed to get away with such things that ruin humanity in the name of god or religion. All killings and destruction by people must stop but more so the ones that are carried out in the name of god and religion. Reason must be allowed to prevail for the good of humanity.
It is these like problems with hadith books that some muslims have become the quran only muslims, for they rather reject hadith than accept that prophet did such acts himself or allowed them for others. Likewise many have rejected these like interpretations of the quran because they put both god and his prophet in bad light ie in these like situations. I think that educated muslims are bound to wake up or islam may not survive the present critical onslaught.
YUSUFALI: If ye fear a breach between them twain, appoint (two) arbiters, one from his family, and the other from hers; if they wish for peace, Allah will cause their reconciliation: For Allah hath full knowledge, and is acquainted with all things.
Well, counselling ought to be the very first step if two marriage partners cannot sort out their problems between themselves to each others satisfaction not the last step after annoying and beating the hell out of each other. Has Allah not lost his plot here, altogether?
YUSUFALI: And they assign daughters for Allah! - Glory be to Him! - and for themselves (sons,- the issue) they desire!
It seems from verses like this that even god does not think that women are same as men in their worth. Allah too rather have sons than daughters as if it were. Moreover when Christians say Allah has a son, the reply is that even though he does not have son but had he so desired he could choose one of the men 39/4. However Allah does not answer the same way to the pagans ie that if he so willed he could choose daughters from among the women.
YUSUFALI: When news is brought to one of them, of (the birth of) a female (child), his face darkens, and he is filled with inward grief!
YUSUFALI: With shame does he hide himself from his people, because of the bad news he has had! Shall he retain it on (sufferance and) contempt, or bury it in the dust? Ah! what an evil (choice) they decide on?
The tribal ideas and practices are stated in the quran regarding women but the real question is, has islam made much difference for the better of their image? The answer is, not at all. For example, in preislamic times women were regarded as daughters of god/s. Now who can dispute that, that they meant women were very respectable. Prophet’s wife was a business woman. Queen of Sheba (a pagan queen) is another figure mentioned in the quran 27/23. Besides the quran mentions pharaoh’s wife 66/11. Prophet was allowed to marry out side his tribe and religion and so were noah and lot 66/10. So things were not all that bad before islam in comparison to what happened after the advent of islam. I mean noah and lot or pharaoh etc could not force their beliefs upon their wives, clearly showing open societies where people were free to think for themselves without the fearful consequences.
Moreover the slavery that was there before islam is still there ie it has not been abolished by the quran. The women were not equal to men then and they are not now. This means that if muslims have power today to take over other people ie nonmuslims, they will start taking slaves again and that would be perfectly legal for them to do. Now slavery is a worse curse a people could suffer, so no wonder people will treat their daughters the same way ie bury them alive rather than allow them to suffer all their lives under captivity or brutality in the name of marriage. I mean people commit suicide themselves under pressure never mind killing their daughters. So what has islam done to ease peoples' difficulties in life? In order to get rid of an evil its ways and means must also be abolished as far as possible. By not making slavery and negative gender and sexual etc discrimination unlawful islam has failed to shut the door to such evils for good.
If worldly goods do not matter to muslims then why slavery was not abolished for good? Why so much sex in this way as told in the quran was allowed? It seems those who want us to have nothing to do with worldly goods want it all for themselves, if I may say so. Property rights for women were their before islam that is why prophet’s wife had her own business of which the prophet benefited ie used it as he saw fit, for she gave it to him. Islamic law is making life hell for muslims by way of putting so many restrictions in their way that most of them are unable to live in real world progressively and happily. One has to ask, is life not hard enough on its own as it is, that god would test us by putting more burdens upon us? This would seem another ploy by the socially unaware thereby uncaring rich and powerful, the real authors of these scriptures as it would seem from the types of the statements used in the scriptures, to control the poor masses by brainwashing them into believing that god wants them to suffer all these injustices for test, just in case they take out their frustration on their greedy masters.
The point is that muslim masses are not going to get reward for suffering due to such things because the quran does not hold them to be unlawful. For example, if a wife suffers beating by her husband, why should she be rewarded extra, for she is only getting done to her what the quran says or allows as proper? So it is not wrong or injustice that automatically triggers reward for her. If slaves accept slavery and do as told by their masters, that too does not deserve any special reward, for they are only doing what they are supposed to do. Duty bound reward is different from compensation for suffering injustice at the hands of another person. The quran does not accept that being treated as a good wife or slave is any injustice to anyone.
YUSUFALI: Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (in their case) they are free from blame,
Same in 70/30, slaves too were human beings and allowing masters to treat their slaves like this would make one question as to who were the real authors of the quran? People who would benefit from all this exploitation of helpless people. Who yet wished to be known as good people with blessings of the very kind and merciful god. By reading the quran one can reconstruct the minds of the authors of the quran ie we can judge the personalities of the authors and its followers. This is how one may say that the quran dehumanises people because it has been written by a group of cruel people. Is this the case because Muhammad lost his mother at a very young age and his father died even before his birth and most of his followers themselves being poor and slaves suffered cruelty at the hands of their masters, so they did not get the needed motherly, fatherly or brotherly love to develop properly so may be it affected their minds that way?
YUSUFALI: The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
As I said the answer of islam to any disobedience is beating people up. Moreover to tell people to not to be moved by compassion is ultimate cruelty, for this is how the quran dehumanises humanity by making them insensitive to pain and suffering of others. Is this the kind of world we want to create and live in? This also raises question as to how god of quran can be accepted merciful if he is not moved by compassion? What does his forgiveness mean? It seems we are here protecting family honour rather than acting out of social concern for the betterment of human beings. I mean if anyone is free to marry anyone so long as they consent to each other even temporarily then where is the room in all this for adultery? People who commit adultery must be liking each other and if that is the case then there has to be something in their way which is stopping them from marrying each other? This something has to be the barrier between the rich and the poor. A married man does not need to divorce his wife to get another and a married woman can also file for divorce so where is the problem? So punishment should be meted out to those who are standing in the way of these adults not these people themselves who are in love. It seems this law has more to do with unkind parents and husbands who are more interested in keeping everything within the family or tribe eg women and wealth etc.
YUSUFALI: Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry and but a woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever: nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman: to the Believers such a thing is forbidden.
Here is another example of confusion. If a person is known to be an adulterer then that person is not to be married by a muslim. If that is the case why punish such a person any more? Is divorce from the community not punishment enough if the person was not married and if married, divorce from the husband or wife? Or is remaining isolated for rest of one’s life not punishment enough for this sin? Moreover if a person has had the punishment, why stop people from getting on with their life? These people we are talking about are muslims, for muslims are not allowed to marry idolators anyway see 2/221 etc. Moreover if one’s actions can lead to exclusion from religion of islam then why not exclude all who break any injunction of religion? Does a thief remain a muslim and can he marry a muslim? What about others who fail to fulfil their duties imposed by islam? Moreover what happened to god’s forgiveness?
YUSUFALI: And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;-
Again islam seems to be an unforgiving religion or allah an unforgiving god. If people have been found guilty and have had received due punishment then why should they still be barred from normal life for the rest of their lives? Moreover each case must be judged on its own merits. Human beings are not perfect and make all sorts of mistakes in life and we all deserve a second chance. It seems the author of this scripture is not the most kind, all knowing being but an unforgiving arab tribesman perhaps, for god ought be quite clear in his objectives not so confused as the quran makes us believe.
YUSUFALI: And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of se-x; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.
The quran forbids taking any free muslim woman for marriage without her consent 4/19. but according to bukhaari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64, Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65: Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)."
The prophet married aisha when she was only six years old. She was 18 when the prophet died at the age of 63. I do not think, any child of six is able to give marital consent with understanding even today while the children of our time are more knowledgeable never mind 1400 years back when children were not that much knowledgeable at all. So either these reports are false which again I am not in a position to prove or that the prophet was not an exemplary man for all to follow for all times and places as muslims claim. In fact if anyone did this today in civilised societies, he will not be taken lightly and may even end up in jail. The problem with hadith reports is that if we reject them then we must also reject the whole chains of their narrators as well because we do not know which of them has lied ie could be anyone of them. This being the case they may also have narrated other hadith reports as well thus the whole hadith books become suspect and worthless and so islam falls apart.
Anyway, the quran here is clear that children do not have sense of sex and to think a six year old is not a child would be outrageous. To justify this by the tribal customs would be to admit that Muhammad was not a divine prophet for correction of wrong ideas and practices of the time but an impostor to perpetrate such things. These like are the reasons that some muslims are rejecting hadith collections.
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 67:
Narrated Abu Huraira:The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)." Volume 7, Book 62, Number 68:
Narrated 'Aisha:I said, "O Allah's Apostle! A virgin feels shy." He said, "Her consent is (expressed by) her silence."
Moreover we are told, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'
The way people are going about sexual expression and the way the quran stated it, leaves little room for effectiveness of hijaab. If men can marry and divorce so many women at will and posses so many slave girls as they want, one has to ask why do we still need hijaab? What kind of men muslims are that after having so much sexual freedom, they are still not feeling satisfied that women must still protect themselves from these very men? Are these men or sex monsters?
One has to see here that men do not need to hide themselves from their young female slaves because they are their property but young free women must hide themselves from their male slaves even though they are their property. Moreover sex seems to be highly important for muslims, for even god is telling them what kind of women are waiting for them in gardens if they do what they are told. The quran contains many verses on this subject alone. For example, read sura ar-rahman ie Sura No 55. Although I think this is another trick by the authors of the quran. The masters are telling their slaves in the name of god that their wage will be paid in hereafter. This saves them paying anything to them from their own pockets just now.
The idea on which the organised religion is based seem to me to be, somehow make people believe there is a god. Once people accept this idea, make them believe he came himself to them or has sent his messenger for them. Once they believe these two things. Now one can indoctrinate them as to what that god asks them to believe and do. So people being simple minded believe anything anyone tells them no matter how ridiculous just like children who believe in fairly tales. Masters to slaves are like grown ups to little children and we all know how clever the children are against grown ups. Masses were always ignorant because they were born ignorant and their circumstances or environment was not helpful for them and the situation is same even today despite advances in science. Many people still believe in things that are laughed at by others. Do muslims not think beliefs of other people are wrong eg jesus the incarnation of god himself? Hindus believe similarly.
YUSUFALI: Such elderly women as are past the prospect of marriage,- there is no blame on them if they lay aside their (outer) garments, provided they make not a wanton display of their beauty: but it is best for them to be modest: and Allah is One Who sees and knows all things.
This is really terrible that even elderly women must remain wrapped up just in case men lose their control and that is even in a perfect Islamic state. So where do muslims stand who are living in imperfect muslim states or even in nonmuslim states?
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Say to thy Consorts: "If it be that ye desire the life of this World, and its glitter,- then come! I will provide for your enjoyment and set you free in a handsome manner.
Where did the prophet get the money from? Because we are normally told by muslims that prophet never had anything on him because whatever he used to have was given out to people in need. Or is he hiding some stuff for rainy day or is it going to come from the one fifth part of the loot the prophet gets as war booty?
YUSUFALI: But if ye seek Allah and His Messenger, and the Home of the Hereafter, verily Allah has prepared for the well-doers amongst you a great reward.
YUSUFALI: O Consorts of the Prophet! If any of you were guilty of evident unseemly conduct, the Punishment would be doubled to her, and that is easy for Allah.
Is it fair for allah to threaten his prophet’s wives with double punishment? Or is it the way prophet used to control his wives by frightening them this way? Moreover note in these verses, how prophet tells his wives that he would let them go if they so desired but before he gives them that choice he tells them you are mothers to the believers, thus he effectively leaves them no choice but to stay his wives, for none is allowed to marry them. There is inconsistency problem here as well ie none is your mother other than that who gave you birth then we are told that prophet’s wives are mothers of believers and that their foster mothers are also mothers to them. Yet prophet is not a father to muslim men while his wives are their mothers. Does that mean, he is father of all muslim women? Then how could he marry any of them? If he could marry his daughters ie muslim women then by same token can muslims not marry their mothers ie prophet’s wives? What a confusion?
YUSUFALI: But any of you that is devout in the service of Allah and His Messenger, and works righteousness,- to her shall We grant her reward twice: and We have prepared for her a generous Sustenance.
YUSUFALI: O Consorts of the Prophet! Ye are not like any of the (other) women: if ye do fear (Allah), be not too complacent of speech, lest one in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire: but speak ye a speech (that is) just.
YUSUFALI: And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless.
These verses clearly put women in their rightful place ie inside their own homes. They should not be seen or heard for that matter, if they wish to remain married and have goodly rewards in hereafter. This is what islam did for the women folk. Instead of providing the necessary secure environment for women to develop themselves so that they could participate in society at large in all its possible aspects they are locked up as treasured properties in the cupboards waiting for permission of their men folk. If this is the situation with prophet’s own wives as a leader then what can one make of ordinary wives of ordinary folk? I thought islam liberated women, for they were suppressed and oppressed before the advent of islam. Are they free now after the advent of islam? Moreover the prophet seems to be worried about losing his wives hence the need for telling them stay away from men, you cannot marry them even after my death. Seems act of a very desperate, jealous and revengeful man who lusts after other peoples’ wives perhaps.
People talk about hijaab as something religiously liberating. Hijaab has nothing to do with religion it is more likely to be an ancient way of protecting women folk from strangers lest they find them attractive and take them away from their own folk. If you hide what you hold dear then it is likely that it will survive robbery or theft, because others would not know about it so they would not come to rob you of it, would they? So societies that did not develop with time, did not invent better methods of crime prevention, so they still rely on old methods. They do not let their kids wander around on their own lest some one takes them away. Moreover, if a society has no political structure for social purposes in place to protect peoples’ persons and properties then hiding one’s things from other unwelcome guests is one’s best protection. In fact it is natural instinct in all animals.
Look how animals hide their food like a dog might hide a bone. Security has been a problem of all animals including humans hence people came up with ideas of houses, banks and prisons to keep things in or out by means of locks and keys. Children come up with ideas of security as much as is within their capacity of thinking and adult according to their capacity of thinking. Illiterate and ignorant people do things their way and educated and knowledgeable people do things their way. Humans do things their way the best they can think and animals do things their way the best they can think. People who try to live according to by gone times can never live in peace because they cannot make progress that way and therefore cannot prosper due to not trying to be self sufficient as much as they can be. This is how backward ways of life lead to stagnation and regression.
On the other hand societies that have advanced with time have invented other ways and means to prevent and detect crimes so they no longer need old ways of living, for they feel more secure so they let their kids and women go as far afield as far they feel they are safe. This explanation also throws light on a lot of other religious customs ie once upon a time they were a necessity for survival. They were therefore taken as very important and customary and were therefore turned into religious obligations. However later generations lost their objectivity and seem to have taken them in a wrong sense giving them static and permanent position and so that began to hold them back from any further progress and development. So the things that were useful for a peoples’ very survival at one time thus became biggest hurdles for them in their progress at another time.
On top of all this, some people who were a bit clever and in positions of power thought that they could use religion to take advantage of other people who were simple minded and weak. Thus religion served more than one purpose for the human beings. This explains why religions were once upon a time thought processes about origin of universe and useful as ways of life and flexible in nature but then became cause of rigidity, division, violence, retrogression and stagnation etc etc.
Here we see god allowing prophet to marry the wife of his adopted son and thereby allowing it for everyone in future but as we read in verses preceding these, we are told that adoption is not allowed. If adoption is not allowed any more then how can one marry the wife of his adopted son? Again Allah seems to be unaware as to what he said a while ago and what he is saying now. But then Allah is Allah ie he can do what he likes including double talks or setting up double standards.
If we also read verses like 2/226, 228 etc, we are told normally a woman should wait after she has been divorced for a few months. Why? Just to ensure that woman is not pregnant so that she does not take her husband’s baby with her. Because the baby is property of the husband not the wife. A mother is just a hired womb that is all. This shatters Islamic brotherhood concept in more than one ways. Why should it matter to whom the baby belongs ie mother or father? The concern should be for baby’s welfare regardless who is bringing him up in a brotherhood. Even if mother marries another man, he could prove to be as loving father as the baby’s biological father. After all any human is member of human family and should be given all the help we can to help him become a good member of our society and that is what society is all about. To tell a human being you do not belong here because you are not mine is not human at all. Moreover if a child needs his own father then he also needs his own mother as well.
If one parents deprives the child of the other parent, it is highly likely the affect will be lasting. These dictates of the quran clearly point to their tribal origin rather than divine origin. Only tribals treat their wives and kids as their properties not civilised people. This is why there is much gap between Islamic societies and civilised societies. Another point I would like to raise here is the invention of pregnancy text kits whereby one check within days if one is pregnant or not and so does not need to wait for months. Now Allah forgot to make provision for that. All he had to say to people in such cases was, if you find other ways of doing this then work out waiting time accordingly. The god who talks about space age in the quran according to muslims does not even know that pregnancy kits would also be available by then. Moreover he forgot to tell people how to pray in the space station the while orbiting around the earth for months if not years.
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Once again we have problem here as to why a divine prophet must have so many wives and slave girls at the age over mid fifties? The prophet seems to have been allowed more than four wives whereas the rest of men only four. The prophet is also allowed unpaid wife but others are not allowed that but they only pay what they can, if we read hadithes in bukhari. In the following verse prophet does not even need to bother with wives he has lost interest in, what an excellent example for muslims to follow as regard fair treatment of their wives.
YUSUFALI: Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose (turn) thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them: and Allah knows (all) that is in your hearts: and Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.
The problem here is that the prophet has the choice but not the wives. In verses like these it appears as if Allah is following his prophet’s desires rather than laying down the rules for him and the rest, to follow.
YUSUFALI: It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this, nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess (as handmaidens): and Allah doth watch over all things.
I wonder why prophet is told to have no more wives but he can carry on having slave girls. Is it that wives have become problem for the prophet in some way and so the slave girls are easier to handle? For example, a muslim tribal woman comes from a tribe but a slave woman has no one to step in for her. Husbands only deal harshly with their wives if their in laws are not strong enough to show them the right way. Moreover, the prophet seems to be desiring for more woman but he can’t get them the way he wants them, so he decides to give up the idea of having more wives.
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Enter not the Prophet's houses,- until leave is given you,- for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation: but when ye are invited, enter; and when ye have taken your meal, disperse, without seeking familiar talk. Such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet: he is ashamed to dismiss you, but Allah is not ashamed (to tell you) the truth. And when ye ask (his ladies) for anything ye want, ask them from before a screen: that makes for greater purity for your hearts and for theirs. Nor is it right for you that ye should annoy Allah's Messenger, or that ye should marry his widows after him at any time. Truly such a thing is in Allah's sight an enormity.
The man who is example for all to follow is hesitant to express himself as well as the people whom he taught how to live, do not know how to behave in certain situations. Also note the discomfort the most merciful man is in due to men sitting around his house, for he has young wives and maids. So not he only tells men to behave but also tells his wives to stay out of sight.
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
YUSUFALI: Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time:
Women are asked to protect themselves by such hijaabs as would identify them so that they are not molested. Why aren’t the criminals who are molesting the women dealt with instead of making women suffer for what they do? This is like telling a man don’t get out of your house, you may be robbed. If this is how we made laws then soon human society would have been back in jungle life style. It is time we thought of preventing crime by taking measures against the criminal behaviour rather than telling peaceful citizens who are going about their legitimate business to go hide from the criminals. We need to think of better ways of crime detection instead of telling people, don’t walk on the streets. It also shows wrapping up women is wrong instead men who misbehave they must be educated and dealt with properly ensuring women are safe in our houses and our villages, cities and countries. This is what society is all about.
YUSUFALI: "Bring ye up", it shall be said, "The wrong-doers and their wives, and the things they worshipped-
Why should women be made to suffer for sins their men did, for women were property of their husbands’ or masters’?
YUSUFALI: "Allah has begotten children"? but they are liars!
YUSUFALI: Did He (then) choose daughters rather than sons?
YUSUFALI: What is the matter with you? How judge ye?
YUSUFALI: Will ye not then receive admonition?
YUSUFALI: Or have ye an authority manifest?
YUSUFALI: Then bring ye your Book (of authority) if ye be truthful!
The quran tells us that god wants proof of all those who believe anything different from what the quran tells ie it demands people of other faiths to prove their beliefs. Is it then not the right of the people of the other beliefs to seek the proof of Muhammad as well? If it is then, muslims must prove their religion true or they will not be accepted truthful in their claims about islam. Moreover their arguments and demands of others will also be taken as unfair. It is a question of having double standard.
The other point here is that god does not like anyone to attribute lies to him. Hence it is absolutely vital that people do not take their scriptures as divine for granted or that would make god angry.
YUSUFALI: Yet they attribute to some of His servants a share with Him (in his godhead)! truly is man a blasphemous ingrate avowed!
YUSUFALI: What! has He taken daughters out of what He himself creates, and granted to you sons for choice?
YUSUFALI: When news is brought to one of them of (the birth of) what he sets up as a likeness to (Allah) Most Gracious, his face darkens, and he is filled with inward grief!
YUSUFALI: Is then one brought up among trinkets, and unable to give a clear account in a dispute (to be associated with Allah)?
Somebody is insulting women in the name of god here. Are women like this the way the quran portrays them in this verse? Are people not aware of women doctors, scientists, judges, lawyers, crime detectives, engineers, teachers and politicians etc etc? These professions demand the skills the quran thinks women do not have. It is only true of a society that oppresses and suppresses both men and women. Allah is wrong in telling men to suppress women or poor men and then blaming them for not having sense. So the quran is actually attacking the good nature of god. Somebody who wrote the quran did not realise these things.
YUSUFALI: And they make into females angels who themselves serve Allah. Did they witness their creation? Their evidence will be recorded, and they will be called to account!
YUSUFALI: Or have they a ladder, by which they can (climb up to heaven and) listen (to its secrets)? Then let (such a) listener of theirs produce a manifest proof.
Proof and proving is made an issue once more. This happens in the quran quite often ie repeatedly.
YUSUFALI: Or has He only daughters and ye have sons?
It seems that allah the god of the quran somehow does not think that women are equal to men but the question is, why? My answer is because the quran is not word of god but of people whose personalities the quran is portraying ie the masters of the time who loved controlling women. I hope dear readers that you still remember that I was talking about Islamic brotherhood, fairness and equality in islam. By now you may have realised that Islam is divisive and not true to its such claims.